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Cín Dromma Snechtai Cín Dromma Snechtai

  • s.viii / s. xin
  • Lost Irish manuscripts
Identifiers
Title
Cín Dromma Snechtai
Provenance and related aspects
Date
s.viii / s. xin
The date of compilation has been prone to different suggestions, ranging from the early 8th century (Thurneysen) to the late 9th or even 10th century (Mac Mathúna).
Hands, scribes
Codicological information
Dimensions
small
Condition
Lost
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While it is not a reality yet, CODECS seeks consistency in formatting references to locations of texts and other items of interest in manuscripts. Our preferences may be best explained with some examples:

  • f. 23ra.34: meaning folio 23 recto, first column, line 34
  • f. 96vb.m: meaning folio 96, verso, second column, middle of the page (s = top, m = middle, i = bottom)
    • Note that marg. = marginalia, while m = middle.
  • p. 67b.23: meaning page 67, second column, line 23
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Midland group

[Baile Chuind Chétchathaig] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10
[Audacht Morainn] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10
[Echtrae Chonnlai] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10
[Orgain brudne Uí Dergae] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10; LU. The heading in LU is ‘Slicht Libair Dromma Snechta inso’. Discussion: Tomás Ó Cathasaigh, ‘On the Cín Dromma Snechta version of Togail brudne Uí Dergae’, Ériu 41 (1990); Vernam Hull, ‘Togail Bruidne Da Derga: the Cín Dromma Snechta recension’, Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie 24 (1954)
» The LU version of Orgain brudne Uí Dergae opens with the statement that the narrative has three fore-tales (rem-scéla): Tesbaid Étaíne ingine Ailello, Tromdám Echdach Airemon, and Aisnéis síde Maic Óic do Midir Breg Léith ina síd.

Northern group

[Compert Conchobuir]
[Compert Con Culainn] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10; Lebor na hUidre (said to be a Libur Dromma Snechta)
[Forfess Fer Fálgae] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10
[Verba Scáthaige] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10
[Immacallam Choluim Cille ⁊ ind óclaig]
[Immacaldam in druad Brain ocus inna banfhátho Febuil ós Loch Fhebuil]

‘Mixed’ group

[Compert Mongáin] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10; + LU; YBL; TCD H 4. 22 + TCD H 3. 18
[Scél Mongáin] » ?Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10; + LU; YBL; TCD H 4. 22 + TCD H 3. 18
[Tucait baili Mongáin] » ?Egerton 88 (not in 23 N 10); + LU; YBL; TCD H 4. 22
[Scél asa mberar co mbad hé Find mac Cumaill Mongán ocus aní dia fíl aided Fothaid Airgdig] » Egerton 88 (not in 23 N 10); LU; YBL; TCD H 4. 22
[Immram Brain] » Egerton 88; RIA 23 N 10

Other

» Bruiden Da Choca § 61 cites CDS for two narrative details: that Cormac Cond Longas was decapitated and that Anlúan son of Dóirche mac Mágach then brought his head to Athlone. This suggests, as Gregory Toner argues, that CDS contained either a reference to or a summary of the events surrounding the death of Cormac Cond Longas.(1)n. 1 Gregory Toner, Bruiden Da Choca (2007): 21.
[Fíl and grian Glinne Aí] » Poem beg. ‘Fíl and grian Glinne (h)Aí’. The introductory colophon in Egerton 88, f. 14r, states that what follows derives from an extract of CDS made by Gilla Com(m)áin Ó Congaláin: ‘[In]dcipiatur nunc Cin Droma Snechtai annsa iarna tolomradh do Giolla Comain truagh o Congalain anrobo deach lais innti.’(2)n. 2 Ed. Kuno Meyer, Hibernica minora, being a fragment of an Old-Irish treatise on the Psalter (1894): 46. The gloss remarks that Saill tuirc (line 21) is not to be found in CDS. The poem's relationship to other texts in the manuscript is uncertain. On account of the ascription to Dá Choca in the prose account accompanying this poem, Carey suggests that the poem may have belonged to the northern group.(3)n. 3 John Carey, ‘On the interrelationships of some Cín Dromma Snechtai texts’, Ériu 46 (1995): 91 n. 96. Gregory Toner, however, considers it “virtually certain ... that the attribution to Da Coca is late”..(4)n. 4 Gregory Toner, Bruiden Da Choca (2007): 23.
[Tulchuba briathar]
The list below has been collated from the table of contents, if available on this page,Progress in this area is being made piecemeal. Full and partial tables of contents are available for a small number of manuscripts. and incoming annotations for individual texts (again, if available).Whenever catalogue entries about texts are annotated with information about particular manuscript witnesses, these manuscripts can be queried for the texts that are linked to them.
Lost Irish manuscripts

Sources

Notes

1.
Gregory Toner, Bruiden Da Choca (2007): 21.
2.
Ed. Kuno Meyer, Hibernica minora, being a fragment of an Old-Irish treatise on the Psalter (1894): 46.
3.
John Carey, ‘On the interrelationships of some Cín Dromma Snechtai texts’, Ériu 46 (1995): 91 n. 96.
4.
Gregory Toner, Bruiden Da Choca (2007): 23.

Secondary sources (select)

Thurneysen, Rudolf [ed.], Zu irischen Handschriften und Litteraturdenkmälern [I], Abhandlungen der königlichen Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttingen, Philologisch-Historische Klasse, 14.2, Berlin, 1912.  
comments: Continued by Rudolf Thurneysen, Zu irischen Handschriften und Litteraturdenkmälern II (1913).
[‘Cín Dromma Snechta; Compert Con Culainn nach der Handschrift von Druim Snechta; Baile Chuind Chétchathaig nach der Handschrift von Druim Snechta; Forfess fer Falga nach Handschrift von Druim Snechta’]
Thurneysen, Rudolf, Die irische Helden- und Königsage bis zum siebzehnten Jahrhundert, Halle: Niemeyer, 1921.  

Contents: Part 1 (chapters 1-23): Allgemeines; Part 2 (chapters 1-85): Die Ulter Sage.

Internet Archive: <link>
15–18
Carey, John, “On the interrelationships of some Cín Dromma Snechtai texts”, Ériu 46 (1995): 71–92.
Celtic Digital Initiative: <link>
Mac Mathúna, Séamus, Immram Brain: Bran’s Journey to the Land of the Women, Buchreihe der Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie, 2, Tübingen: Max Niemeyer Verlag, 1985.
CELT – edition (pp. 33–45): <link>
421–469 [‘Cín Dromma Snechtai: a reappraisal’]
Ó Concheanainn, Tomás, “A Connacht medieval literary heritage: texts derived from Cín Dromma Snechtai through Leabhar na hUidhre”, Cambridge Medieval Celtic Studies 16 (Winter, 1988): 1–40.
Ó Cathasaigh, Tomás, “On the Cín Dromma Snechta version of Togail brudne Uí Dergae”, Ériu 41 (1990): 103–114.
Hull, Vernam, “Togail Bruidne Da Derga: the Cín Dromma Snechta recension”, Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie 24 (1954): 131–132.
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Dennis Groenewegen
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April 2011, last updated: August 2023

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